Poster DEFYING tried to pull a fast one with TRUMP ODDS

[thecentaur]

http://www.therxforum.com/showthread.php?t=1061446&page=7

He offered +190 for Trump to be president to any takers on 9/13 $500 minimum, daring us to take it because he hates Trump and is sure he will lose. Earlier in the thread someone posted a field bet vs. Hillary from Pinnacle at +172 which was worded "Trump and all others". Defying used this opportunity to offer a "Trump wins" bet at +190, knowing it was below any other book at the time. When I questioned him why anyone would bet some guy on the internet at worse odds than they could get anywhere else he offered the different Pinnacle field bet odds (+172) as evidence he was giving good odds and said he had his own shop and did lots of business for large amounts with people on here.

Either he, as a book owner, doesn't know the difference between a Trump wins and a field bet (<<), or he knew he was being sneaky and acted like Trump backers should put their money where their mouth is at these "great" odds. For example just minutes ago Trump to be president on 5dimes is +190, Trump and field (including other dems because of health issues) on Pinnacle which Defying was comparing his offer to is +148.

Defying challenged Trump supporters to bet him at horrible odds compared to what they could get anywhere else, and acted like he knew Trump would lose even though as a bookmaker he could immediately lay a +ev arb with a no Trump bet at another book or take that action at his own.

Defying :>(

 

[Defying]

Seriously... You need to go

Trump is +180 at DSI
Trump is +190 at 5dimes

And these are the very best odds you can find offshore at respectable books for US Players... and just about everyone would prefer futures/prop on credit because the money is tied up for so long...

I see +155 to +170 at all the PPH's I have log ins for..

Excuse me for offering friendly odds at +190... but please exclude yourself
I wouldn't trust you with a .04 cent credit line, move on.. You've proven how low your ceiling is in both intelligence, potential and money...

 

[thecentaur]

Seriously... You need to go

Trump is +180 at DSI
Trump is +190 at 5dimes

And these are the very best odds you can find offshore at respectable books for US Players... and just about everyone would prefer futures/prop on credit because the money is tied up for so long...

I see +155 to +170 at all the PPH's I have log ins for..

Excuse me for offering friendly odds at +190... but please exclude yourself
I wouldn't trust you with a .04 cent credit line, move on.. You've proven how low your ceiling is in both intelligence, potential and money...

You just keep at it don't you?

You know damn well at the time you offered it the odds were different, now you cite current odds and you want to act like you were bravely backing what you believe and challenging all the Trump backers to do the same at "fair" odds. At the time you offered Bookmaker and DSI for Trump presidency were +205, I checked. GTFO

 

[akphidelt]

If you don't like the odds, don't bet. What a stupid thread.

 

[HarryCaray]

Haha, starts a thread to call someone out and comes out looking like an idiot.

Classic

 

[HarryCaray]

Defying used this opportunity to offer a "Trump wins" bet at +190, knowing it was below any other book at the time.

For example just minutes ago Trump to be president on 5dimes is +190

Ummmm, what? Sounds like you're contradicting yourself here.

So he offered the same as 5dimes, but on credit instead of post-up, and you're complaining? :think2:

 

[HarryCaray]

If you don't like the odds, don't bet. What a stupid thread.

Exactly.

 

[thecentaur]

You've proven how low your ceiling is in both intelligence, potential and money...

How does you either not knowing the difference between a to win bet and a field bet, or deliberately lowballing/tricking people (and daring them into betting you on something you could immediately arb) prove I have a low intelligence, potential, and money? Granted you said I've "proven how low" my ceiling is, you didn't say I "have a low ceiling", so you may be up to some more of your little tricks.

 

[Defying]

How does you either not knowing the difference between a to win bet and a field bet, or deliberately lowballing/tricking people (and daring them into betting you on something you could immediately arb) prove I have a low intelligence, potential, and money? Granted you said I've "proven how low" my ceiling is, you didn't say I "have a low ceiling", so you may be up to some more of your little tricks.

post your ticket of better odds on trump or stfu

face)(*^%

 

[thecentaur]

Defying cronies coming to his defense. No shit if you don't like the odds don't bet. I am calling him out on him comparing 2 different bets to make it seem his odds are good and acting like he puts his money where his mouth is and Trump supporters are chicken.

Haraycaray I'm sorry you haven't followed the details closely enough. Read my posts again, and again if necessary

 

[thecentaur]

post your ticket of better odds on trump or stfu

face)(*^%

Oh a strawman? Now you want the question to be "did I bet it at better odds?" No you liberal douche. This thread is about how you either as a "shop owner" don't know WTF a field bet is, or you acted like you were so sure about yourself and so sure Trump supporters were chicken while offering shit odds to them. I'm sure there are odds histories for this bet, and as a shop owner I would think you could easily look at it.

 

[HarryCaray]

Defying cronies coming to his defense. No shit if you don't like the odds don't bet. I am calling him out on him comparing 2 different bets to make it seem his odds are good and acting like he puts his money where his mouth is and Trump supporters are chicken.

Haraycaray I'm sorry you haven't followed the details closely enough. Read my posts again, and again if necessary

Appreciate the implication that I am too stupid to comprehend, but I assure you I understand what you're saying.

Who cares if he (allegedly) offered a worse line than is widely available? It's on the person who takes the bet to check other outs. This doesn't make him underhanded, he offered what he offered, either take it or don't. But to call him out for it is weak. Seems to me the odds were aligned with marketplace.

If the discrepancy is as large as you say it is, and someone takes the bet anyway, then they're an idiot (or they are not going to pay anyway and are freerolling).

And it has nothing to do with being cronies, AK and I have never gotten along and both agree you're off base on this one.

 

[Shub]

If you don't like the odds, don't bet. What a stupid thread.

havent seen you in a while AK, what up? /i have to agree here. If you dont like it move on, case closed. Defying is a solid dude.

 

[thecentaur]

Seems to me the odds were aligned with marketplace.

Ok I will spell it out for you since you didn't want to read again. The +190 was now and I was comparing it to the Pinnacle field bet of +148 which is now. 5dimes was not +190 days ago when he offered.

If a line moves from +200 to +140 in two days, that doesn't mean a book that offered +140 2 days ago offers market odds.

 

[919]

http://www.therxforum.com/showthread.php?t=1061446&page=7

He offered +190 for Trump to be president to any takers on 9/13 $500 minimum, daring us to take it because he hates Trump and is sure he will lose. Earlier in the thread someone posted a field bet vs. Hillary from Pinnacle at +172 which was worded "Trump and all others". Defying used this opportunity to offer a "Trump wins" bet at +190, knowing it was below any other book at the time. When I questioned him why anyone would bet some guy on the internet at worse odds than they could get anywhere else he offered the different Pinnacle field bet odds (+172) as evidence he was giving good odds and said he had his own shop and did lots of business for large amounts with people on here.

Either he, as a book owner, doesn't know the difference between a Trump wins and a field bet (<<), or he knew he was being sneaky and acted like Trump backers should put their money where their mouth is at these "great" odds. For example just minutes ago Trump to be president on 5dimes is +190, Trump and field (including other dems because of health issues) on Pinnacle which Defying was comparing his offer to is +148.

Defying challenged Trump supporters to bet him at horrible odds compared to what they could get anywhere else, and acted like he knew Trump would lose even though as a bookmaker he could immediately lay a +ev arb with a no Trump bet at another book or take that action at his own.

Defying :>(

either you're a troll, or the dumbest person on this site...not a good look either way

 

[Defying]

Soon his name will read
banned Everywhere including here

 

[wilbur]

Oh a strawman? Now you want the question to be "did I bet it at better odds?" No you liberal douche. This thread is about how you either as a "shop owner" don't know WTF a field bet is, or you acted like you were so sure about yourself and so sure Trump supporters were chicken while offering shit odds to them. I'm sure there are odds histories for this bet, and as a shop owner I would think you could easily look at it.

Did you take Defying's bet???

 

[thecentaur]

If you dont like it move on, case closed.

Nooooo shiiiiiit people. This thread isn't about that.

Defying as a shop owner either didn't know the difference between a to win bet and a field bet, or he deliberately tried to trick people by comparing odds on 2 different bets.

 

[thecentaur]

Soon his name will read
banned Everywhere including here

Can you admit you were either making a stupid mistake or were being tricky? Or are you like other liberal cronies in here?

 

[wilbur]

Nooooo shiiiiiit people. This thread isn't about that.

Defying as a shop owner either didn't know the difference between a to win bet and a field bet, or he deliberately tried to trick people by comparing odds on 2 different bets.

If you don't make any sense after one more beer, I'm done with this thread.